{"id":145,"date":"2006-05-01T18:01:00","date_gmt":"2006-05-02T01:01:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bohls.org\/wordpress\/?p=145"},"modified":"2006-05-01T18:01:00","modified_gmt":"2006-05-02T01:01:00","slug":"ryobi-bts20r","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.bohls.org\/blog\/2006\/05\/01\/ryobi-bts20r\/","title":{"rendered":"Ryobi BTS20R"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>So I think I&#8217;m about set to trade up in table saws.<\/p>\n<p>One of the first things I did when starting out with the woodworking thing was get a saw. I read on the <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thisoldhouse.com\/\">This Old House<\/a><\/em> website that Norm&#8217;s advice was to get the best table saw that you can afford as the first thing you had to do. So I went surfing for table saws and quickly found that they&#8217;re all pretty much way out of my price range. So I put the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.deltamachinery.com\/index.asp?e=136&#038;p=797\">Delta TS200<\/a>, at about a hundred bucks, on my Christmas list, hoping my Dad would buy it for me, and he did. I figured that was all the saw I was ever going to have, so I&#8217;d make do.<\/p>\n<p>But since then I&#8217;ve gained an appreciation for what I can and can&#8217;t do with the Delta saw, and I think I need something better. So I&#8217;m stepping up all of one notch to the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ryobitools.com\/index.php\/catalog\/tool\/bts20\/\">Ryobi BTS20R<\/a>. Or I&#8217;m thinking and hoping to step up, but, after discussions with Dawn, I think it&#8217;s going to happen, as some sort of birthday present in June.<\/p>\n<p>The BTS20R is $200 at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.homedepot.com\/\">Home Depot<\/a>. You can look at that as twice the price of the Delta. Or you can figure it&#8217;s $2,200 less than the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.powermatic.com\/\">Powermatic 66<\/a>. Your choice.<\/p>\n<p>More accurately I suppose we should compare it to the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.boschtools.com\/\">Bosch 4000-09<\/a>. The tool test for portable saws in <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.taunton.com\/finehomebuilding\/index.asp\">Fine Homebuilding<\/a><\/em> in July 2005 rated the Bosch the best of the bunch (<strong>Editor&#8217;s Choice<\/strong>), and it was the <strong>Readers&#8217; Choice<\/strong> as well. But it&#8217;s $550, folks, way way out of my price range. The Ryobi was the <strong>Best Buy<\/strong>. Of it they said: &#8220;This saw has it all: power, portability, good peripheral equipment, great onboard storage, and an excellent price.&#8221; The one downside that they noted was that the side-support wing is tightened with knobs rather than a lever, something they said was inconvenient. But it&#8217;s hardly a deal breaker.<\/p>\n<p>But in comparing it to the Delta that I have now, there are a load of differences. The Ryobi motor is 15 amps, versus the Delta at 13 amps, and will cut to a depth of 3.625 inches, versus the Delta&#8217;s 3 inches. The Ryobi is twice the weight of the Delta but comes in a collapsible stand with wheels, so it&#8217;s bigger yet more portable and will save precious shop space. Getting even more important is the rip capacity with that side-support wing, giving me 27 inches to the right versus Delta&#8217;s 9.5 inches (or 17.5 with the extension that I&#8217;ve got on it). Even better is the Ryobi&#8217;s built-in outfeed support that the Delta simply doesn&#8217;t have. And the Ryobi&#8217;s dust collection port that the Delta lacks as well &#8212; right now I have a cardboard box sitting under the Delta to catch sawdust, but it doesn&#8217;t catch much.<\/p>\n<p>But the most critical items that the Ryobi has are a standard throat plate and standard 3\/8&#8243; x 3\/4&#8243; miter gauge slots. The Delta is simply more dangerous when cutting small or thin pieces that fall through the throat, and I can&#8217;t use aftermarket accessories like locking featherboards because they won&#8217;t fit into the Delta&#8217;s smaller, non-standard slots. And I have to just take out the Delta&#8217;s throat plate and go commando when using the dado set, whereas Ryobi offers an actual dado insert as an accessory. And the Delta miter gauge broke but I can&#8217;t replace it with an aftermarket gauge, so I&#8217;ve just forcibly screwed it back together. The Ryobi miter gauge looks and feels beefier and better, but I could replace it with an <a href=\"http:\/\/www.incra.biz\/Products\/MiterV27.html\">Incra V27<\/a> if I want. Or at the very least, it looks like the Ryobi miter gauge will more readily take an auxillary fence; the Delta doesn&#8217;t have holes all the way through to screw a fence through, so I&#8217;ve had to use little nuts and bolts that fit <em>inside<\/em> the damn thing.<\/p>\n<p>And I can&#8217;t use a tenoning jig with the Delta, if I decide to get something like that, or the nifty-looking Leichtung <a href=\"http:\/\/woodworker.com\/cgi-bin\/FULLPRES.exe?PARTNUM=30254\">Universal Table Saw Jig<\/a> that seems to be both a tenoning jig and a kind of sliding crosscut sled for under sixty bucks. Not with those miter gauge slots that I&#8217;ve got now. But, honestly, it&#8217;s not like I&#8217;m going to be doing production work making Arts &#038; Crafts furniture or anything like that, so I don&#8217;t know if I really need that kind of tenon making capability.<\/p>\n<p>But the throat plate and miter gauge are a big deal. I would just feel safer and better with standard. And the fold-down portability is pretty cool too. That&#8217;ll save space. And I&#8217;m thinking that I could hold a router table insert in the gap between the table and the extension wing, with the insert resting on the two extension rails, and as long as it&#8217;s flush with the top and wing I could make use of the saw&#8217;s fence, so then I can get rid of the little video cabinet that I&#8217;ve been trying to turn into a router table-y type deal. That&#8217;ll save more shop space.<\/p>\n<p>So, safety and space, what better reasons can there be?<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;ll see if we can swing this in June. It&#8217;s not like $200 will break our budget, but it&#8217;s not pocket change for us either.<\/p>\n<p>Late Update: During dinner, Dawn turns to me and asks, &#8220;So when do you want to get your saw?&#8221; So not June, but <em>now<\/em>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So I think I&#8217;m about set to trade up in table saws. One of the first things I did when starting out with the woodworking thing was get a saw. I read on the This Old House website that Norm&#8217;s advice was to get the best table saw that you can afford as the first &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bohls.org\/blog\/2006\/05\/01\/ryobi-bts20r\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Ryobi BTS20R<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[12],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-145","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-woodworking"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.bohls.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/145","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.bohls.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.bohls.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.bohls.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.bohls.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=145"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.bohls.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/145\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.bohls.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=145"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.bohls.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=145"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.bohls.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=145"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}